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Celx-Requin
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Celx Requin @Celx-Requin

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New Comic! Why Deviant Art Blows Compared To Newgrounds, Fucking Feet...

Posted by Celx-Requin - April 26th, 2011


I'm working on new stuff and I'm helping theonewithoutaname with the programming for her comic again, most of this stuff will be happening next month I've been too busy to do much this month.

For those of you here for the comics these are the links:

The Sugar Claws:

Part One
Part Two

Deviant Art Sucks:

Alright so I went to the local art gallery here (which is surprisingly not lame), when I attended they were having an exhibition of the local university art students work.

Some of the art on display was pretty cool, and other parts of the exhibit made me wonder if it was an exhibit for the mentally retarded.

For example there was a lot of generic manga/anime style bullshit. Now don't get me wrong there isn't wrong with manga/anime, but fuck some of these submissions were just soulless.

They seemed so boring, like they were mass produced or something, like the artists didn't want to take a risk or do something different.

There was one picture in particular drawn by a 21 year old graduate that had an anime chick just standing about in a lame ass pose, it was in black and white, and the most creative thing about it was there were swirly arrows pointing to her character saying something stupid like "girl power" or some shit.

Anyway like a train wreck I was captivated by it's sheer awfulness, and I must have been staring at this putrid canvas of dog vomit for a good 5 minutes.

So the "artist" walks over to me and says something along the lines of "pretty cool huh? it took me a while to do, I'm pretty proud of it".

I replied with "Ah I see how long did it take?"

She responded with "We had a one week deadline"

I replied with a terse acknowledgment of her statement along the lines of "I see" hoping to avoid further contact, and a possible uncomfortable situation.

She then asked me if I would like to place a bid on it, the question caught me off guard, and I responded with a simple "I don't think so"...

She then started to question me as to why not, instead of telling her the truth that the thought of hanging something so repulsive in my office would give me cancer, I just told her "it wasn't my thing".

"What's the matter with it?" she asked.

At this point I fell into a scenario where I felt I could have lied to get out the situation, but she asked me what I thought was my issue with her work and I felt it would be wrong to say "nothing is wrong with it, I'm just broke this month"...

So I told her politely, but in a frank manner all the same that I thought it was kinda boring. I think my exact words were "I can't see myself purchasing this because it seems kinda boring, and I feel there isn't anything that makes it unique or interesting, it seems like a lackluster effort, but that's just me I'm sure others may see something in it".

She looked at me for a bit, produced a "Uh-Hu" sound, and walked away while giving me the slightest of dirty looks.

The whole incident hasn't sat well with me, I mean if she didn't want to know what was wrong with it she shouldn't have asked.

And that brings me to the point I wanted to make about DeviantArt in comparison to newgrounds.
I am grossly offended that any company that puts itself on a pedestal for it's "artistic" community has a "block user feature" to prevent people from reviewing/commenting on ones work.

See the thing that matures and nurtures an artist is not sappy undeserved praise but rather honest pragmatic criticism, it doesn't need to be pernicious or cruel but honest is the key.

The deviant art community is living in what Freud would describe as a state of "Angels Thanatos", putting the concept in simple terms they are living in a "delusion".

Aside from that repugnant aspect of the community, the other thing that makes my blood boil is the censorship on that site.

Why is it adult pictures aren't allowed? If one has an idea and can't express it within the confines of an invisible square it can ruin the artistic integrity and narrative of a series of pictures. I mean imagine if someone cut out the sex and drug scenes from the film "requiem for a dream", would it has the same impact?

Oh fuck wait! Cockbuster already did that, since the store policy isn't to carry any NC-17 films (I'm referring to blockbuster for the slow). You know why they did that?

Money, fucking money! And that's alright they're a company and should be allowed to run their business any goddamn way they please, same with deviantart.

Although I find the concept of any company that is supposed to be a beacon for artists censoring work deplorable conduct, I can't blame them for wanting to make a dollar.

Now I know all of this seems bitchy, since they aren't forcing anyone to submit work to their site, and this is true but that's not the point I wish to bring up.

I want you to remember back when we had indie video stores that carried porno's, smut, and general trash like Troma films, you know the one where the owner was all fat and sweaty smelling of goat cheese, remember how cool that was? Those places died out because we stopped using them.

Newgrounds is today's equivalent of that, the staff are assholes, the community speaks their mind, and the fact that I'm posting this drivel on the front page should make it crystal clear how fortunate we are to have a website like newgrounds available (after I publish this shit I'll eagerly be awaiting registrar to call me an "untalented ugly faggot" ).

I hope people don't lose sight of the community we have, and how special it is, or else we'll all be giving circle jerks to each other on DevaintArt, and I'm not a gay.
Bottom line is newgrounds has soul...

Also fucking feet are hard to draw...

New Comic! Why Deviant Art Blows Compared To Newgrounds, Fucking Feet...


Comments

This is why you go to real art sites, like <a href="http://www.conceptart.org/">http://www.conceptart.org/</a>

Noted...

nice.
lol I feel the same way when I browse a lot f so called "college graduate" anime art

Isn't it painful?

Hahaaa.

Quite a read.

Shit, I'm surprised the girl asked you for a bid... Kinda forward. Unless you were staring at it for like, fourty minutes and drooling, It's kinda freaky her asking if you'd like it.

Hahaha, indie shops doing porno. I remember HMV selling shit like that and I'd stand there with my Mate looking at all the back covers until they kicked us out.

Haven't actually seen any of your work to be honest, will have to check it outttttttttt. (but I doubt I'll be bidding on it HAHA SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)

I miss indie porno shops :(...

True, but don't forget that there are people who would freely abuse that aspect of Newgrounds and inane flame the crap out of every submission they find. You know what I'm talking about, the one worded review that consists of a one word insult.

Although that sort of thing isn't rampant in the Flash and Audio portal, it is easy to do in the Art portal; I've still yet to see any of Jigsaw80Puppets reviews [implying that most, if not all his art reviews are like that] removed.

Don't be fooled, that circle jerk mentality is the same reason why I hate Rtil. This community is what made him and he basically took a shit on everybody within the community and took off for deviant art.

But the thing is this; our community isn't perfect either. Think about it, you can't post what's referred to as "perv bait" for no other reason that it would become popular for it's graphic content, artistic or not.

I think "turkey on a stick" adequately responded to your comment so I don't feel I need to.

Well if an artist honestly blocks out constructive criticism, they're only holding themselves back. But you're right about the whole deal. Gotta love Newgrounds.

I think she was attracted to you and was hoping to impress you with her artwork. You didn't just step on her "unique and innovative" little toes, you broke her heart you monster.

Someone liking me is akin to a serious form of paraphilia...

You're right, phsycopath, art with sexual content gets rated highly despite it's artistic qualities.

Yet that doesn't seem to stop you posting dodgy yiff porn to the art portal ...

Stick A Turkey On...

I am both newgrounds and deviantart artist, but I think you are right :)

Some of the submission in deviantart are just ... like you said above.
While in Newgrounds, we can see many talents and pageviews isn't everything in Newgrounds.

I'm not right, I'm Celx!

Was the exhibit that boring? You really didn't have a good time there?

It was about as fun as watch monkeys fling poo poo at each other... Wait that sort of sounds entertaining!

I agree that deviantART is a giant hugbox, although I use both dA and the Art Portal. DeviantART just lets me dump shit like scetches and whatnot. I'm not really there for the non-existent community, but rather for the small amount of people I know over there. Being on dA doesn't mean you have to put up with sparkledogs 24/7 if you don't want to.

Yeah I suppose but it's still a pretentious shithole.

Not only is DA censored and delusional, but they don't have a system that filters out the crap and highlights the awesome. The quality of an artists work is represented by how many page views they've been able to buy, as opposed to a score assigned by the community.

That's why my deviant art only has 5000 page views, and <a href="http://mario2-0.deviantart.com/">http://mario2-0.deviantart.com/</a> has 7000.

Tru dat son!
Word!

I think those feet look good :P
but you make a good point about everything there, and I'm sure I agree :)

I like feet...

About the censorship: They're trying to broaden their audience, and yes, while artistic nudes and things like that are allowed, no pornographic material is allowed. DeviantART is more awesome than Newgrounds for several reasons:
1) Colleges sometimes go there, and see potential students to recruit.
2) The community is friendlier and more open to criticism.
3) The art quality is more diverse than on Newgrounds.
4) They still allow flash movies and flash games.
5) There are not as many flamers.
6) It's open to all skill levels, ages, etc.
7) Newgrounds IS full of flamers, trolls, etc.
Overall, DA beats Newgrounds by a ton. So, suck on that for a while and come back to me with how Newgrounds could POTENTIALLY beat DA.

LOL, I'm going to tear this list apart along with the next piece of shit you submit to the art portal.

Add on: Not saying DeviantART is perfect by any means, but I would much rather be surrounded by friendlier people than a bunch of butt hurt morons like the rest of Newgrounds. You guys are vicious, and I feel like I'm suffocating here, because all you do is take advantage of the review system to try and insult me. I would respect Newgrounds a lot more, if you encouraged me to do better without the insults.

You want my advice to stop "trolls"?

1). Start a new account.

2). Don't act like a flaming ass to mouth faggot, and take criticism like an adult.

3). Develop your own style.

If you do these things you'll do better on newgrounds, and everywhere really, it's common sense man...

Also, I'm tired of the dancing phalluses that people draw on here and think they're funny. It really shows that you guys are "smart". You guys are "Geniuses" and "Wizards" and dancing cocks make everyone's days here brighter, right? Course, it's all fun and games till you get jizzed on, you sick punks.

You're one to talk all the chicks you draw seem to have downs, do you have a spastic fetish or something?

Fuck I agree. And you should see the site! Some people poked fun at the people who run the site and the CEO is butthurt. It's friggin' hilarious! I hate the censorship and if you don't draw FUCKING KAWAII DESU NE cookie cutter anime styled art....well you're fucked. I do give the site credit for helping me improve, but it doesn't make up for censorship and shit. I considered leaving, but people pay me shit their for art there.

Yeah I wish newgrounds had a points system so people could donate to an artists account or something.

Hopefully in the redesign!

I agree they don't understand what banning mean.Ban mean you can't come back.Well if I 'm ban from that place how I can still come back.They should allow ban users to delete their accounts,samething with the non ban user with their old accounts

It's nice to know people still find my old stuff!